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Q & A: Is it appropriate to pray against our perceived enemies?

Anonymous – Is it appropriate to pray against our perceived enemies? This includes praying against fellow Christians, if necessary. I do think there are a lot of people who demonstrate evil behavior while claiming to be a Christian. We often hear about the importance of praying for our enemies; however, at times, it seems more appropriate to pray right against them. If you can, please give examples of people in the Bible dealing with this dilemma.

Dave – Thanks for the question. When David needed protection, he ran to God for refuge. David prayed that God would rise up against his enemies in Psalm 7. This type of prayer is called an imprecatory prayer. Two questions arise: 1) Was David out of the spirit by selfishly praying for the downfall of his enemies? and 2) Is it right for us to pray this type of prayer today?

In John 15:25, Jesus quotes Psalm 35:19 and 69:4, and Paul did so as well in Romans 11:9-10, which is a quote of Psalm 69:22-23. Since Jesus and Paul quoted verses from these imprecatory psalms, it proves those psalms were inspired by God and removes all doubt that they were sinful or simply selfish prayers of revenge. Since Jesus wants us to pray for our enemies, however, I find it difficult to justify asking Him to destroy someone. Rather we should pray that the evil spirit working through that person be stopped because the New Testament reveals that our battle is not against flesh and blood but against evil spiritual powers (Ephesians 6). In addition, Jesus’ disciples were about to pray that God would send lightening down onto a village where they were rejected, but Jesus warned them not to do so because they did not realize what spirit they were of at that moment (Luke 9:55).

In the case of a bin Laden-type, I think it’s good to ask God to stop him, leaving the HOW up to God alone. After all, we are to be “salt” in this earth (preserver of righteousness). Jesus did say if a person lives by the sword, he will die by the sword. So it comes as no surprise that bin Laden met with violent deaths.


Feedback so far:

Anonymous (the questioner) – Great response brother, thank you.

Nels F. – Wonderful answer my friend–for I too have often wondered how to pray for folks I can’t stand—
for all the evil they are doing–what I do– I pray in the spirit for them until I find peace!

Mark D. – Great answer!

Cindi L. – It’s interesting when you read Ps. 69:21 is prophetically speaking of when they offered Christ
vinegar on the cross…in Ps. 69:22-28 is pretty condemning – when you turn to the NEW Testament where
this happened recorded in Luke 23:36 Jesus said just before that in verse 34forgive them because they know not what they do“. Dave, I think your Eph. 6 reminder is the toughest one for me to constantly retrain my fleshly brain – I think it is an excellent standard to keep reaching for – doing spiritual warfare. No wonder we have to be constantly “renewed in the spirit of our minds“..Eph. 4:23. I think we are suppose to pray against the “spirit that is at work in the sons of disobedience” (Ephesians 2:2, 5:6, Colossians 3:6). I think your response to this question is very good. I also think that David was physically fighting for the continuation of God’s “kingdom” on earth and now we fight spiritually for that.

Q & A: “The chastisement of our peace was upon Him.”

Cindi L – I don’t understand the verse in Isaiah 53:5 that says, “the chastisement of our peace was upon Him.”

Dave – Other translations say, “upon Him was the chastisement that made us whole.” Another, “He was chastised that we might have peace.”

Cindi L – Chastise means to punish , usually by beating; to criticize severely…I guess it makes more sense the way you have put it.

I was still trying to see why peace would have chastisement (or punishment) attached to it , but to say to make us whole…kind of the “cost” that had to be paid in order that we may experience peace was hard to wrap my mind around…but Him taking on beatings or punishment for us to be made whole makes a little more sense to me. “The punishment of our peace” just didn’t make sense – like why would peace have a
punishment.

Isaiah 53 says four separate things. He was:

  • WOUNDED for our Transgressions (sins)
  • BRUISED for our INIQUITIES
  • CHASTISED for our peace
  • Had STRIPES for our healing.

So many times we say it so quickly but I’m sure there is even layers of truth to keep discovering of each. Thanks for submitting it; I will look forward to others commenting.

Mark D – From my favorite commentary:

Wounded–a bodily wound; not mere mental sorrow; literally, “pierced”; minutely appropriate to Messiah,
whose hands, feet, and side were pierced (Ps. 22:16). The Margin, wrongly, from a Hebrew root, translates, “tormented.”

for… for–(Rom. 4:25, 2 Cor. 5:21, Heb. 9:28, 1 Pet. 2:24, 3:18)–the cause for which He suffered not His own, but our sins.

bruised–crushing inward and outward suffering

chastisement–literally, the correction inflicted by a parent on children for their good (Heb. 12:5-8, 12:10-11). Not punishment strictly; for this can have place only where there is guilt, which He had not; but He took on Himself the chastisement whereby the peace (reconciliation with our Father; Rom. 5:1, Eph. 2:14,15,17) of the children of God was to be effected (Hebrews 2:14).

upon him–as a burden; parallel to “hath borne” and “carried.”

stripes–minutely prophetical of His being scourged (Mt. 27:26 , 1 Peter 2:24 ).

healed–spiritually (Ps. 41:4, Jer. 8:22 ).

How to Explain that Jesus is the ONLY WAY to Heaven

A contemporary and often controversial question shot at us regarding Jesus is, “Is He the only way to heaven?” The Bible tells us to always be ready to defend the hope that lies within us (1 Peter 3:15). So I’d like to share 3 approaches we could take when in this situation:

  1. Scriptural Approach – share the relevant verses with gentleness and reverence.
  2. Coy Approach – be intentionally reluctant to reveal the Truth up front. Say, “It depends.” Now you’ve got their ear because many people anticipate the believer to have a straight-forward, quick answer that they plan to reject. Continue, “It depends on if the Bible is God’s Word and if our real enemies are Satan, sin, and death (Jesus was the only one to conquer them).” This can lead to the Truth from the Scriptures. It’s always good to share what Jesus accomplished on the Cross and through His resurrection.
  3. One-to-One Sensitivity Approach (based on Col.4:3-6) – rather than saying “yes” right away, ask relevant questions to the person such as “Do you believe in God? How about Heaven? Do you believe that Jesus died and rose from the dead? Engage the person with more discussion for the purpose of determining where they are at spiritually. End with a penetrating question such as “Since you’ve heard things about what He did, why do you think you’ve ignored finding out what Jesus said all these years?” The claims He made about Himself far outdistance every human that has ever lived. If you seek Truth, it makes sense to start with something that stands out above anything else. You might also ask, “Since all great religious founders are still dead, why wouldn’t you want to believe in Jesus since He is the only one to rise from the dead? If He didn’t, the Bible is a lie and so was Jesus because He said He would rise. If He didn’t rise, someone stole His body because that tomb was empty. If His body was stolen, either His friends or His enemies did it. If His friends did it, why would they be willing to preach something that put their lives in danger since they knew it was a lie? All of them were executed except Judas and John. If His enemies stole it, why didn’t they produce His dead body to prove He did not rise? I’m sure those Pharisees would have loved to be able to do that! By using this approach, you may discover how open they are to God.

“Being ready” for us means we have been praying and reading the Word and trusting the Spirit to do all the work and inspiration. Remember, when people ask this question about “the only way,” it usually means they are closed-minded and are trying to make Christianity look intolerant. Not always, however. In many cases, this conversation will start out with us being on the defensive. It is good strategy to turn that around. Asking them questions about their beliefs can serve to accomplish this and make us more sensitive to where they are coming from. If our answers are “seasoned with salt” and spoken in gentleness and reverence, they can go a long way in that person’s heart over the years, perhaps even for a bystander who also hears our response. God will accomplish much when His Word goes forth from His mouth (Isaiah 55:11). I interpret “from His mouth” as meaning from His Spirit, not ours.


Feedback:

NF – Right on!

GR – Amen without a doubt #1 Grace then Truth…but always Grace first. Thanks for enlightening and brightening my day. I Love you brother Dave

DG – This is great Dave, excellent tactics to turn a skeptic. I would also include the most important method, service in love (agape). If we consider others more important than ourselves and show them love by both helping and meeting legitimate needs, this can open up an amazing door to Life, and soften a person’s heart. Often “Christians” are their own worst enemy by not having the fruit of the spirit. “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law” (Galatians 5:22-23). Without love we are NOTHING (1 Corinthians 13:1). Are we being these things at work in the public? I know I struggle sometimes. We also remember the fruit of the spirit in Galatians are the fruit of the Holy Spirit. The fruit of a disciple in Christ are more disciples! Abide in the vine.

PT: I recently read a theologian who said the Bible does not say all had to believe in Christ to make it to heaven. He then went on to tell of those in the Old Testament who did not know Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior and still made it to heaven–beginning from Adam and Eve until Jesus birth. So the legalist is wrong if they say Jesus is the only way to heaven according to Scripture. He went on to point out that a good starting point with those who think Christians are closed-minded to other ways to heaven is tell them of all those in the Bible who made it to heaven without Jesus as their personal Savior, then walk them through to the New Testament and the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.

Dave to PT: Thanks, Pat. I understand this man’s approach to unsaved people of today. However, it is difficult to say for certainty who was saved in the OT times. For example, can we even say that Solomon was saved since he backslid terribly toward the end of his life with no evidence of repentance? I’ve always thought that people in the OT times were saved if they believed in the true God and His Word, and in the promise of a Messiah. I’m not sure though. No one could successfully live by The Law, so salvation must have been by some kind of faith. But what kind of faith was it? Habakkuk proclaimed that the “righteous man shall live by faith.” The OT does not get specific like the NT does. In addition, many people then and now had (have) never heard of His Word to the Israeli nation or by some NT believer. What about them? Rather than speculate, I think the best answer is to say we do not know for sure, but what we do know for sure is that God is just and good. So we leave those judgments to Him. Furthermore, if we emphasize that some OT folks were saved without Jesus, then modern folks may conclude that this is still an option when it is not. The main point to the unsaved today is that they HAVE heard about Jesus and they will make a decision for or against Him and His Word…and a “no decision” is against Him.

PT to Dave: I too struggled with this theologian’s remarks. But I think we can say with certainty that the writers of the OT and many others made it to heaven…like Moses, Noah, Abraham, Elijah, David, all those in Hebrews 11 and many others. What he and you are saying, I think, is that God’s ways are truly not our ways and those who try be judge over others (like the legalist) as to who gets into heaven and who does not is not for us to determine, though we can have a good idea by their fruit (like Abraham’s faith). It’s really a great mystery to me, after all, Jesus was there in the OT in the Triune God, just not yet in the flesh. Plus, I like what Chuck Swindoll always points out–the Old Testament is always pointing toward Christ’s coming, the New Testament letters are pointing back to Christ’s coming, and Revelation is pointing to Christ’s second coming. And Jesus words will always remain true: “I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me.” (John 14:16). As for me, I know I am just a sinner saved by the grace of God in Jesus Christ, and that’s good enough for me.

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