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Jesus and Baptism

Ruth D – I have a question about John 4:2 . In my KJV Bible verse 2 -“Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples.” Does that mean that Jesus did not baptize his disciples? Do you think they  were baptized by John?

Dave to Ruth – I’ve always assumed that the disciples were baptized by John since it says that Jesus did not baptize (not His role apparently).

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Cindi L – When Jesus washed their feet…was that somewhat similar experience? I understand that had even deeper significance of life by example etc…but thought I’d drop in this thought with the discussion.

Dave – I look at the foot washing by Jesus as having a two-fold meaning. One, we need to humble ourselves and serve others. Two, we cannot clean ourselves, we must allow Jesus to do it. When Peter initially refused the washing, Jesus said it was necessary to be part of Him. I always think of C.S. Lewis’ book, “The Voyage of the Dawn Treader” when little brat Eustace could not clean away his ugly dragon scales by himself. Then Aslan (Jesus) said to let Him do it. It hurt, but it worked and Eustace was a changed boy.

Peter at Jesus’ Baptism?

Ruth D – Was Peter present when Jesus was baptized? Is that what 2 Peter 1:18 is referring to?

Dave – I don’t think Peter was with Jesus when Jesus was baptized because He had not yet called His disciples to Him. John 1:35-42 reveals that Peter’s brother Andrew was a disciple of John the Baptist and that he brought Peter to Jesus sometime after Jesus was baptized by John. Andrew brought Peter to Jesus because he believed that they he had found the Messiah. So Andrew most likely witnessed the baptism. 2 Peter 1:18 is referring to the transfiguration when Moses and Elijah appeared with Jesus. Peter, James, and John saw this.

Footwashing

Ed D – I do find it strange that Christ Community Church has traditionally taught that Christ instituted two sacraments, when clearly from the Gospels he instituted three: baptism, foot washing, and communion. Do we just not know how to wash feet or how this sacrament should be carried out?

Dave – Good question.

“There is a difference between foot washing and a sacrament. Jesus was trying to teach His disciples the need for humility and servanthood when He washed their feet. This He did as an example. Jesus said, “I gave you and example that you also should do AS I did to you”(John 13:15). There is, I believe, a significant difference between doing ‘what’ Jesus did and doing something “as” Jesus did. Jesus was serving His disciples out of humility; they should likewise serve each other out of humility. Their humble service was not to be restricted to foot washing. But when Jesus instituted the Lord’s Supper   (Communion) He said, ‘This do in remembrance of Me’ (Luke 22:19). We never see foot washing being practiced by the apostles or anyone else in the Book of Acts or the rest of the New Testament, but we do read that they constantly met together to ‘break bread’ in remembrance of our Lord (Acts 2:42; 20:7; 1 Corinthians 11:17-34).”

Source: What is a Sacrament, and should foot washing (like in John 13) be included like the Lord’s Supper and Baptism? – Bible.org

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Nels F (2/26/14) – Great answers here–but last summer I was told by the Lord to wash a international students feet to show him that Jesus wants each of us to serve out of kindness and humility–the student who does not know the Lord was very moved! We serve a mighty God!

Mark (2/26/14) – Great answer, Dave.

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